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Post by destclev on Jul 5, 2011 20:31:07 GMT -8
If I'd been Faith, when Roger made clear that he was not above telling Delia about Jill's pregnancy in order to curry favor with her, I'd have said something along the lines of, "Okay, buster, go ahead if you like, but if you do, I'll never again give you the time of day."
It's one thing to be a lovable rogue, but Roger has traveled way past that. His complete indifference to Jill's needs is deplorable. He wants his sisters to accept his love for Delia without judging her, yet he constantly judges Frank, the man Jill has chosen.
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Post by Echo on Jul 5, 2011 22:02:16 GMT -8
I do like Roger, as the lovable rogue/Rhett Butler type, in Rh's future. Thanks to the talented Ron Hale.
But at this point in the SL, he is the epitome of selfishness. Although delirious Delia(as she's been screaming, it seems for days now!) is not an innocent, (not at all), I did feel bad for her when Roger was stalking her ruthlessly. He has no conscience whatsoever, at this point in the series.
Yet at the beginning of RH, I felt bad for him, as he was so insecure, he begged for attention, from his sisters, from Delia.He was a very pathetic man. Then he became cold.
I am glad the in later years, Roger was charming, he had confidence, which made him more appealing than his current state of insecurity and selfishness. And most of all he did consider others feelings. He loved his sisters(in deed, not just words), he had friendships.
Ron Hale is delightful playing a rogue, so Kudo's to the writer's for having Roger find his niche'. A likable rogue!
I'm wondering how long before he transforms into a more likable character?
-Echo-
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Jul 6, 2011 11:30:04 GMT -8
Ron Hale is delightful playing a rogue, so Kudo's to the writer's for having Roger find his niche'. A likable rogue! I'm wondering how long before he transforms into a more likable character? -Echo- It will be awhile. Don't forget SPOILER IN BEIGE: he's the one who figures out Edmund's parentage, and blackmails Seneca with it to get his job back. He doesn't even tell Jill.
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Post by destclev on Jul 6, 2011 12:45:10 GMT -8
Ron Hale is delightful playing a rogue, so Kudo's to the writer's for having Roger find his niche'. A likable rogue! I'm wondering how long before he transforms into a more likable character? -Echo- It will be awhile. Don't forget SPOILER IN BEIGE: he's the one who figures out Edmund's parentage, and blackmails Seneca with it to get his job back. He doesn't even tell Jill. Once a blackmailer, always a blackmailer.
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Post by forte on Jul 6, 2011 14:13:03 GMT -8
Hey, it worked out so well for him the first time. ;0)
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Post by teatimes on Jul 6, 2011 20:37:46 GMT -8
I forgot about that - does Jill ever find that out?
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Post by quotablewoman on Jul 8, 2011 6:46:45 GMT -8
>>does Jill ever find that out?<<
You know, I don't think she ever does...
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Post by bob17279 on Jul 8, 2011 7:30:32 GMT -8
Echo--
Over the 15 years of RYAN'S HOPE, Roger Coleridge was mainly (in my view) a charming, likable rogue. But at times he was definitely unlikable, in one memorable period in the 1980s he was absolutely pathological and chilling, but in another memorable period in the 1980s he was a genuine good guy. And Ron Hale was brilliant throughout all these character shifts. I'd say he was superb from the first shows in 1975 to the last in 1989.
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Post by forte on Jul 8, 2011 13:52:20 GMT -8
It just shows how good an actor RH is. His character morphed from diabolical to charming to pitiful to creepy to insightful (keep inserting appropriate descriptions here until you get tired) and yet with all the changes, Roger was always a fully formed person in which the these characteristics made sense. What a wonderfully complex performance.
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Post by bob17279 on Jul 8, 2011 13:57:29 GMT -8
Well said, Forte. Obviously I completely agree. I hope that Ron Hale feels proud of his outstanding work on RYAN'S HOPE.
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