Where Was Deliah??

[fairplay28]

Does that timeline work?

Wasn't LJ six months old when RH began? If Siobhan were in school during those months she would have just graduated in June or did she just up and leave school? Maybe she was already out of school but had no job, in which case she might have been able to stop by, in fact even wanted to because she had nothing else to do.

But it seems that whatever her story, she just upped and left leaving Dee to fend for herself just when Frank was restarting his affair.

[jwinks]

Left Dee to "fend for herself?"

She is a grown married woman with in-laws and her own family a few miles away. Delia has never fended for herself a day in her life. I think that is the whole point of the hearing. She is incapable of doing so.

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 9:43:51 GMT -8 jwinks said:

Left Dee to "fend for herself?"

She is a grown married woman with in-laws and her own family a few miles away. Delia has never fended for herself a day in her life. I think that is the whole point of the hearing. She is incapable of doing so.

BRAVA!!!!!!!!! Perfect post!

[raggedycheryl512]

When the show opened, LI was 11 months old and Chavonne was in Seattle, teaching. All that baby-sitting could be the reason she went to Seattle and stayed for several years. Maybe she had the same view of the kid as Jack does!

[fairplay28]

Jul 9, 2011 9:43:51 GMT -8 jwinks said:

Left Dee to "fend for herself?"

She is a grown married woman with in-laws and her own family a few miles away. Delia has never fended for herself a day in her life. I think that is the whole point of the hearing. She is incapable of doing so.

Bobby is Dee's only family. He doesn't appear to have helped Dee at all with the baby, beyond emotional support.

Her mother in-law was only a few blocks away, actually, and apparently did spell her from time to time.

I agree, Delia couldn't fend for herself and that is what the trial is about.

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 14:04:11 GMT -8 fairplay28 said:

Jul 9, 2011 9:43:51 GMT -8 jwinks said:

Left Dee to "fend for herself?"

She is a grown married woman with in-laws and her own family a few miles away. Delia has never fended for herself a day in her life. I think that is the whole point of the hearing. She is incapable of doing so.

I agree, Delia couldn't fend for herself and that is what the trial is about.

I guess it's a matter of opinion. To me, Delia chooses not to fend for herself. After all, not being able to do so is a key weapon in her arsenal.

[fairplay28]

Yes, Dee wants people to take care of her and she knows how to use the trembly chin to get what she wants. Yet, even when they do she doesn't feel sufficiently cared for. Her need to be the center of everyone's universe is unfulfillable.

We have seen that she has a distorted notion of reality. For example she apparently believes that people will see her as a wonderful mother because she takes LJ to the park. When trying to prove her case to Bob and Pat she described a child playing with a toy not a mother caring for her child. But she does not even see how far from the mark she is.

It is possible to have an extreme lack of self esteem, what we used to call an inferiority complex, and still entertain notions of grandeur. In Dee's case, for whatever reason, she's still in an infantile stage where all needs are taken care of by another and one floats in oceanic feelings of being loved.

[originalbunnymom]

Jul 9, 2011 14:06:01 GMT -8 @destclev said:

Jul 9, 2011 14:04:11 GMT -8 fairplay28 said:

I agree, Delia couldn't fend for herself and that is what the trial is about.

I guess it's a matter of opinion. To me, Delia chooses not to fend for herself. After all, not being able to do so is a key weapon in her arsenal.

Judy and Debbie,

I thought of you both when listening to this on NPR yesterday:

www.npr.org/2011/07/07/137657833/affect-or-effect-grammar-girl-is-here-to-help

I will post it on the "General Board" as well - I know there was some talk about starting a "grammar" discussion...

Marianne

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 14:35:15 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

Jul 9, 2011 14:06:01 GMT -8 @destclev said:

I guess it's a matter of opinion. To me, Delia chooses not to fend for herself. After all, not being able to do so is a key weapon in her arsenal.

Judy and Debbie,

I thought of you both when listening to this on NPR yesterday:

www.npr.org/2011/07/07/137657833/affect-or-effect-grammar-girl-is-here-to-help

I will post it on the "General Board" as well - I know there was some talk about starting a "grammar" discussion...

Marianne

Oh, boy, a grammar discussion. I'm not sure that's a good idea. It seems to me that the last time we had a full-scale discussion of grammar and usage, some posters ended up with hurt feelings, and I can't say that I blame them. Nobody wants to come onto this board and wonder whether other posters are judging their comments or getting a chuckle out of their mistakes. Ever since then, I've kept quiet when these discussions arise. I guess if we wanted to do this, we could have a thread on a non-RH sub-board. But even that approach isn't foolproof. I'm sure many people look at the board the way I do -- searching for all threads with "new" posts, regardless of which sub-board the thread is in. I would approach this with great trepidation.

[originalbunnymom]

trepidation: a nervous or fearful feeling of uncertain agitation : apprehension

I was thinking more along the lines of a FUN <language> thread...

For example:

How do you pronounce "-ough"

"off" as in COUGH

"uff" as in ROUGH

"oo" as in THROUGH

"oh" as in ALTHOUGH

"ow" as in BOUGH

I would never want to discuss words/grammar/language in any way that could be misconstrued as <judgement> on usage...

I think I will still <try> and post that NPR link on the General Board.

"iiwii (pronounced "eewee") = It Is What It It Is

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 18:57:38 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

trepidation: a nervous or fearful feeling of uncertain agitation : apprehension

I was thinking more along the lines of a FUN <language> thread...

Oh, okay, I love discussions like that! All right, I'll pose this problem, which was used by the teacher of a Russian class I took a few years ago to illustrate the difficulty of learning English (and to make Cyrillic look easy by contrast). Can you tell (without Googling or any other outside means of support -- just working on it in your head) what everyday English word this is supposed to be?

GHOTIO

[originalbunnymom]

FISH

And (w/o gurgling), I think the first GH is from "rough" or "tough"...

The O is from "women"??

LOVE IT!!

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 19:18:31 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

FISH

And (w/o gurgling), I think the first GH is from "rough" or "tough"...

The O is from "women"??

LOVE IT!!

You got it, and quickly, too! And you got the derivation for the first three letters, but where does the TIO come from?

[originalbunnymom]

cauTIOn??

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 19:30:40 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

cautION??

You're good! I thought it was FISHY, because to me, the TIO included the schwa sound, and therefore it couldn't be just FISH. My Russian teacher was willing to give it to me anyway~

I believe this little exercise originated with George Bernard Shaw.

I'm impressed, Marianne!

[destclev]

Jul 9, 2011 18:57:38 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

I was thinking more along the lines of a FUN <language> thread...

I love words. I once went around for a week or so making a list of all the expressions and sayings I could think of that included the name of an animal. Things like, "Cat's got your tongue." Or "a horse of a different color [or stripe]." Several people seemed to think I was nuts. "What are you going to do with your list?" they asked.

"Nothing," I said. "Just enjoy making it."

[originalbunnymom]

Jul 9, 2011 19:39:32 GMT -8 @destclev said:

Jul 9, 2011 18:57:38 GMT -8 originalbunnymom said:

I was thinking more along the lines of a FUN <language> thread...

I love words. I once went around for a week or so making a list of all the expressions and sayings I could think of that included the name of an animal. Things like, "Cat's got your tongue." Or "a horse of a different color [or stripe]." Several people seemed to think I was nuts. "What are you going to do with your list?" they asked.

"Nothing," I said. "Just enjoy making it."

I've always been entranced by VOCABULARY...

There is a very witty (IMHO) show in reruns on 3 or 4 "networks" -"How I Met Your Mother"...

As an inside joke, two of the characters salute each other when they hear the words General, Major or Private

Friend: "It was a private conversation"

Couple: <saluting each other in acknowledgement> "Private Conversation"[/color]