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Post by forte on Oct 18, 2011 9:10:59 GMT -8
And there were no Accents for Dummies books available in the 70s.
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Post by fairplay28 on Oct 18, 2011 9:38:01 GMT -8
I wish she had a Russian accent. Some well rounded 'wowels' would be much nicer to listen to than the staccato rat-a-tat-tat of her delivery.
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Post by forte on Oct 18, 2011 17:43:38 GMT -8
Her prosody could use some work as well.
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Post by fairplay28 on Oct 18, 2011 17:53:32 GMT -8
Isn't that what I said?
Someone should diagram her sentences before they hand her the script, and then practice with her.
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Post by groton on Oct 18, 2011 18:10:54 GMT -8
Does she get any better or is this it?
I do like the actress and the character. The accent alone makes the role unsustainable. Does she drift off or end with a bang?
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Post by fairplay28 on Oct 18, 2011 18:18:58 GMT -8
I think she gets better. She is involved in several story lines and then just fades away.
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Oct 18, 2011 19:00:01 GMT -8
Does she get any better or is this it? I do like the actress and the character. The accent alone makes the role unsustainable. Does she drift off or end with a bang? She drops the accent. She's always a Mary Jane character. She has a hot-and-heavy romance with Bob. Well, really, it's a lukewarm-and-lite relationship. She leaves the hospital to work for Rae but SPOILER IN BEIGE: she is disgusted by some of Rae's underhanded tactics and quits her job. I don't think there's even a goodbye scene with Bob; she gets another job and leaves town. Poor Bob.
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Post by lilly on Oct 20, 2011 16:37:17 GMT -8
I have never like Ana Alicia much on the RH reruns, but I loved her on Falcon Crest. I thought she was naturally so beautiful. She also looked really hot with Lorenzo Lamas.
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Post by Echo on Oct 23, 2011 20:17:20 GMT -8
Hi Lilly, Maybe AA seemed more attractive on Falcon Crest, because she played a very confident woman? As opposed to Alicia Nueves(sp?), who has solid moral values, is raising her little brother, and is a very hard worker. But personally, (probably because she has not had any time to learn who she is as a woman/as a person in her own right!), her character is not as developed as the other female characters on RH are. (most likely for the reasons I just stated above). Just my theory anyway. Confidence, self assurance is attractive. Ana Alicia is a lovely actress. Hope she's doing well these days. -Echo-
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Oct 24, 2011 7:24:46 GMT -8
I wonder if Roger thought about adding one final word to the "I'm not your father" interchange with Seneca.
Seneca: "When your father was head of this department, I was close enough to observe your constant need for his approval. I'd just hate to think you're getting the two of us mixed up."
Roger: "Well, that is simply not true, dad."
I wonder if the party for Roger was dampened by no shows. After all, how much cake can three people eat?
I wonder if Alicia's high caffeine intake (a cup of Maeve's special Irish coffee and a cup of Desperate Dee's tea) will come in handy when Alicia takes to the Ryan kitchen to wash dishes. After all, as just about everyone knows, Alicia doesn't have a spare dime, let alone enough to pay for the table of food left behind after Clem hightails it back to hospital.
I wonder if Delia/Sheila is truly secure in Alicia's promise that, "a patient's history is confidential". Alicia follows that comforting statement by naming a neurological patient, Mrs. House, who has accused Alicia of theft (followed by lots of details). All of this confidentiality has Delia accusing the patient of libel. I guess Delia's just glad that she only lied to Alicia as opposed to lifting a dollar or two from her purse, lol.
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Post by colette1954 on Oct 25, 2011 14:43:26 GMT -8
I wonder if Roger thought about adding one final word to the "I'm not your father" interchange with Seneca. Seneca: "When your father was head of this department, I was close enough to observe your constant need for his approval. I'd just hate to think you're getting the two of us mixed up." Roger: "Well, that is simply not true, dad." I wonder if the party for Roger was dampened by no shows. After all, how much cake can three people eat? I wonder if Alicia's high caffeine intake (a cup of Maeve's special Irish coffee and a cup of Desperate Dee's tea) will come in handy when Alicia takes to the Ryan kitchen to wash dishes. After all, as just about everyone knows, Alicia doesn't have a spare dime, let alone enough to pay for the table of food left behind after Clem hightails it back to hospital. I wonder if Delia/Sheila is truly secure in Alicia's promise that, "a patient's history is confidential". Alicia follows that comforting statement by naming a neurological patient, Mrs. House, who has accused Alicia of theft (followed by lots of details). All of this confidentiality has Delia accusing the patient of libel. I guess Delia's just glad that she only lied to Alicia as opposed to lifting a dollar or two from her purse, lol. Since Delia;s self-described legal knowledge comes from having been married to a lawyer she does not realize that what she is talking about is slander rather than libel which is to defame someone in print
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Post by fairplay28 on Oct 25, 2011 14:48:05 GMT -8
Good point, Colette.
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Post by forte on Oct 30, 2011 9:43:30 GMT -8
{{Roger: "Well, that is simply not true, dad."}}
Oh, can he call him Pops? It's so much more derisive, particularly the way that I hear Roger saying it in my head.
{{I wonder if the party for Roger was dampened by no shows. After all, how much cake can three people eat?}}
Too bad Jumbo wasn't one of the people. He seems like a man who likes his food (not a slam on Jumbo; I consider myself a part of that group, too.)
{{I wonder if Alicia's high caffeine intake (a cup of Maeve's special Irish coffee and a cup of Desperate Dee's tea) will come in handy when Alicia takes to the Ryan kitchen to wash dishes. After all, as just about everyone knows, Alicia doesn't have a spare dime, let alone enough to pay for the table of food left behind after Clem hightails it back to hospital.}}
Oh, but the Ryans only seem to charge their customers once in a blue moon. I think the odds are in Alicia's favor that she won't have to pay. And all thanks to Johnny Ryan's astute business acumen. Thanks, Johnny!
{{I wonder if Delia/Sheila is truly secure in Alicia's promise that, "a patient's history is confidential". Alicia follows that comforting statement by naming a neurological patient, Mrs. House, who has accused Alicia of theft (followed by lots of details). All of this confidentiality has Delia accusing the patient of libel. I guess Delia's just glad that she only lied to Alicia as opposed to lifting a dollar or two from her purse, lol.}}
Thank goodness Dee has no interest in patient confidentiality for anyone but herself. I would hate to think of Dee in a moral conflict. Talk about coming to a fight unarmed.
Glad to see you back, SR! We've missed you.
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Post by forte on Nov 6, 2011 6:28:55 GMT -8
OK, I just rewatched the most recent U Tube episode and a few things caught my attention. First, when Bob was talking with Frank in the police car and mentioned the hours that Frank kept. I think it would be a good idea for the adults in LJ's life to consider wearing name tags around the little tyke. Granted, he can't read yet, but they should probably start this so that LJ becomes used to reading the name tags when he can. That way, he can not only be reminded about who his parents are (very important once the casting changes begin happening again) but also because he so rarely sees them. It would also help him to know when Jill was in favor with Frank. There could be color coding perhaps; Jill's name spelled out in green letters to indicate that she was favored by Daddy; in red letters when she was viewed as out of favor.
I wonder why Frank was giving directions to the police? Why is he deciding when and where they will look? Not only did he leave the police force quite a while ago but he is sitting next to the one who should be giving the orders. He's lucky that Bob is such a gentle soul. I kind of hope there was a scene that wasn't shown in which Bob spoke to that officer out of Frank's hearing and gave him different orders. I do so wish someone would give Bob a backbone for Christmas. He needs to separate from Frank and become his own man.
And now, Mary. Of course she's being reasonable, unidentified person on the phone, just ask her! Not that I blame Mary for wanting out, that is. She has spent an inordinate amount of time in the hospital for such a young woman. Once she's in, they just can't seem to let her out. She just stays, and stays, and stays. One bit of advice for Mary, though. If you are seriously considering taking your baby out of the hospital against medical advice, you probably don't want to tell the staff that you're considering doing so. They don't like and will take steps to thwart you in the event that you try. I was laughing at the exchange about the nurses around baby Ryan getting in a fight with Mary. I kept thinking of a Kill Bill exchange except Mary would be in that hideous hairstyle with the braids she wore for so long. I think Mary would be awesome as a ninja. She would be the ninja to write songs about. All efficiency and no regret; just complete confidence that she was right, Right, RIGHT.
My heart did hurt for her when Tom said to stay away from the nursery. Does this man have no compassion? How could anyone say that to a new mother. Even in the 70s. Especially since the only reason Mary can't leave is because Dr. Wolfe is probably too busy showing that birthing videotape to anyone who requests it.
That Mary. She's so irrepressible. Even from her hospital room she can still meddle in the lives of others. I wonder if she really thought Faith and Tom would like each other or if she was trying to "annoy" her way out of the hospital. You know, show them a little of what it's like to have Mary around for real so that they would be more inclined to show her the door?
I noticed that Father Mac used the phrase "verging on the sin of pride" with Maeve and I think the Catholic Church could use these episodes of RH as seminary training materials. The students could watch episodes of RH and identify every sin, actual or "verging." Then there could be a lively discussion where everyone shared their opinions. Or perhaps, for the rest of us, there could be a banner added to the bottom of the screen notifying us of the sin that was just committed. Kind of like pop up video, but with a religious bent.
And back to Frank and Bob; did they not think to look for footprints? Frank was so close to LJ. As my parents would say, if he was a snake it would have bit him. LJ must be exhausted; he wasn't even moving in his sleep. Poor little tyke.
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Nov 6, 2011 17:48:42 GMT -8
Did you happen to find Meeeeeary especially annoying this episode? It made me long for those halcyon days of Robin Mary Paris.
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Post by originalbunnymom on Nov 6, 2011 17:56:09 GMT -8
Did you happen to find Meeeeeary especially annoying this episode? It made me long for those halcyon days of Robin Mary Paris. Was she the faux <MaryTylerMoore married to Dick VanDyke> gal?
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Nov 6, 2011 18:03:20 GMT -8
Did you happen to find Meeeeeary especially annoying this episode? It made me long for those halcyon days of Robin Mary Paris. Was she the faux <MaryTylerMoore married to Dick VanDyke> gal?No, that was Carol Richards. RMP was the perky, slightly manic pregnant and post-partum Meeeeeary who enjoyed the fruits of Meeeeeary's labors.
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Post by scarlettudor on Nov 7, 2011 7:12:43 GMT -8
Forte, the idea of Mary as a ninja in braids forcing right as she saw it on the world is just delicious. Were ninjas even known about it those days? She would have made a perfect one.
No, I don't think Mary was trying to annoy her way out of the hospital when she tried to hook up Tom and Faith. She was just being Mary and everyone in Riverside loves her for it. She's supremely confident, proactive and meddlesome.
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Nov 7, 2011 11:16:21 GMT -8
I wonder what's going on with Mary (as far as her priorities are concerned). I know she's feeling invigorated after receiving a much needed injection of optimism (as administered by Jumbo), and I do understand her desire to leave the hospital with Ryan and strike while the iron's hot down on Weehawken Street. After all, the discovery of Jack's decision to quietly dip his toe into the pool of fatherhood (clad in a suit and tie...nice touch, btw) is big news. However, her rather underwhelming, almost obligatory, reaction to the announcement that Little John was missing seemed slightly out of character.
Does she not realize the enormity of LJ's predicament? He isn't hiding in the basement, the attic, or in a closet -- he's at large in the biggest city in the country (actually, if this was a news story as opposed to a soap script, I'd be absolutely horrified). He's a barely verbal toddler, and he's wandering an area without boundaries, without provisions, and with plenty of potential predators. We've all seen Mary perched on her soapbox preaching at or about Dee and her inability/unwillingness to parent LJ in any practical way, and if Dee ever deserved some fiery backlash for her on again/off again maternal instinct, now would be the time. After Faith broke the news to Mary, I was fully expecting Mary to throw her suitcase back onto the bed while yelling that she was no longer negotiating about being released (with or without medical consent). Instead, she stated that the family must be frantic. And after that, it all got a little weird (for me, at least).
Mary segued quite easily from distraught aunt to hospital matchmaker. After rolling her eyes and commenting that she had plenty of good reasons to be discharged, she suddenly raised her eyebrows and asked, "Do you two know each other, by the way?". Mary pushed a little harder when she inquired about Tom's marital status, mentioned that Faith was unattached, and said that the two of them seemed to be "hitting it off". Somewhere in that poetic interchange about Tom's mother's advice to go and visit the O'Leary girl (who was not the first rose of summer), I wanted to yell, "ATTENTION, Mary!!! Your two year old nephew is MISSING, and he just spent the night somewhere in NYC!".
At least Faith seemed consistently distracted by the bad news. Throughout her short visit with Mary (and Tom), Faith seemed to lose interest in some of the banter. Actually, she appeared to be lost in thought more than a few times, and her face reflected angst and concern. As Tom left, Mary thanked him for his offer to call the precinct to find out about the LJ search. Ummm....there's a phone on the bedside table, Mary (and no shortage of Ryans to call). As the door closed, Mary smiled at Faith and said, "He's terrific, didn't you think so?".
Faith was polite, but she immediately brought the conversation back to LJ. After a few sentences, Faith decided to use her break to get some first hand news from the Ryans. Mary ends the conversation by telling Faith the good news about Jack visiting the baby. I don't know, it seems to me that it would be hard to rejoice about anything in the wake of a missing toddler.
Well, that's my rant on a scene I found to be poorly written. And now onto looking at what everyone else is wondering about....
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Post by fairplay28 on Nov 7, 2011 11:32:50 GMT -8
It's not unreasonable to assume that mary would be worried about LJ. It seems to happen fairly often that a character seems unconcerned about an event outside of their own story line. It's as if the writers didn't have a module to fit that concern into. Mary is relieved, though once LJ is found .
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