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Post by lsufan4667 on May 29, 2011 12:07:46 GMT -8
OK gang... although some of these snafus are a couple weeks old, I'm gonna get my feet wet on this new board, keeping w/the old thread title. (Thanks, RW..oops, RC, for starting an "I Wonder" thread while the old board was still functional ) I wonder...Why would Jill wear a nightgown to bed w/a new lover, only to remove it when Seneca plants a kiss on her "morning breath?" If Jill doesn't want Seneca to read too much into their beach house romance, why did she respond, "funny, I was just thinking the same thing" when Seneca said, "it's nice to wake up with someone beside you." Faith to Pat after he rescued Dee from ledge: "Did you have a rope around you? Or some kind of protection?" No protection with you, Faith...none for Dee. Frank and (a screaming) LJ in parlor; enter Mary (whose new initials are now 'M.F.' Go figure.) Knowing LJ was previously (and seriously) burned by a coffee pot, why is Frank letting him get so close to the percolator on the parlor table? MF mentions to Frank a time machine...w/Frank being able to "go back and do the whole thing over again...only this time, with Jill." Well, so much for Little John. Thinking back on Seneca's jail time, I wonder why he was able to continue wearing a dress shirt, slacks, ring and watch? No prison garb? Why was Dee confined to a psychiatric hospital room, complete w/bars on the windows, when anyone and everyone (including Dee) can enter and exit her room at will? Why does everyone else just walk into Dee's room (Johnny, Pat, Roger, etc.), yet Frank knocks before entering? She's still his wife, isn't she? Nothing like 'confidentiality' on a psych ward...with patients' names emblazoned on their doors. Poor Dee. As soon as she's hospitalized, Mary steals her blue bath bead decanter, which is now on Fenelli's dresser. According to Dee, Bobby's only got a "one and a half room apartment." What constitutes a "half room?" The sign behind Johnny's bar reads, "BURGERAMA $1.75." Is that a burger, fries and drama? Burger, fries and yo Mama? Burger, fries and LJ's pajamas? ;D Bob enters bar, telling Maeve and Johnny that Fr. MacShane had visited Dee and Frank in her hospital room. "Frank stormed out of the office...said he couldn't live with her anymore." Jill to Seneca: "Maybe I'm being unnecessarily pest-imistic." Freudian slip? RE: Frank: Roger to Dee in hosp, while she packs her suitcase: "He was here this morning." Dee: "Yeah...he came to tell me, uh, what time Frank is coming to pick me up." Enter Johnny, who's picking up Dee, and yells at Roger: "How can you stand there and ask for my daughter-in-law's hand in marriage? My son's daughter?" Huh? Roger to Charlie Ferris on phone: "Tell Mr. Ferris the kind of trouble Frank Ryan is in won't be helped by volunteers." Huh? You're talking to Mr. Ferris, Roger. Kevin scolds Pat and Frank in the bar, ordering them to lower their voices or else go back in the kitchen. Where it's soundproof? Mary wants to invite Pat and Faith to dinner at her and Jack's apt because "I haven't seen her since the wedding." Um, Faith wasn't AT the wedding.
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Post by fairplay28 on May 29, 2011 12:22:51 GMT -8
According to Dee, Bobby's only got a "one and a half room apartment." What constitutes a "half room?
We really have those in NYC. The half room would be either a sleeping alcove or kitchen alcove. Usually the former.
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Post by jasper on May 29, 2011 13:03:54 GMT -8
Those snafus were good. A few of them had me laughing so hard! I'm glad you catch all the goofs and then take the time to post them. Thank you. jasper-
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Post by MSO488 on May 29, 2011 18:01:32 GMT -8
It's a sticky link,which will keep it at the top.
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Post by tuggs77 on May 30, 2011 2:13:45 GMT -8
Absolutely love this!!
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on May 30, 2011 6:31:40 GMT -8
I wonder if ROGER knows that Delia was cheating on him with his brother-he-never-knew-he-had, FRANK Coleridge? I guess Johnny had Frank on his brain.
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Post by seasonedrefinement on May 30, 2011 6:40:46 GMT -8
Hi, LSUfan! So glad to see you and your wit are here! I still haven't looked at the "quote and reply" directions, so I've just copied and pasted. Hope it comes out looking alright! Anyway, here's to a long and successful "I wonder" thread! LSUfan said, "Enter Johnny, who's picking up Dee, and yells at Roger: "How can you stand there and ask for my daughter-in-law's hand in marriage? My son's daughter?" Huh?" Poor Johnny...he just can't keep the family members straight -- especially when he's fighting the concept that his progeny's humanity can no longer be denied. In today's "morning after the death of the campaign" episode, he went through his usual grinch-like facial contortions as he lamented Dee's foolishness in getting involved with "Frank Coleridge". LSUfan said: "Frank and (a screaming) LJ in parlor; enter Mary (whose new initials are now 'M.F.' Go figure.) Knowing LJ was previously (and seriously) burned by a coffee pot, why is Frank letting him get so close to the percolator on the parlor table?" LOL -- I never considered Mary's new initials. Actually, I thought Jack was the partner with the new initials -- J.R. (and they came complete with a new bedroom dresser named Grandpa Ryan). But, I like M.F. better! As for Little John? Good question -- and in today's episode, an "exhausted" LJ was discovered crawling around on the back stairs and was, according to guardian angel Maeve, about to break his neck. Good thing that Maeve flew him back to bed (the same one from which he alleged escaped the first time) and closed the gate. It's slightly ironic that just a few minutes later, Frank was telling Maeve that he plans to divorce Dee and sue for custody of LJ. Maeve, having just saved LJ from imminent injury, tells Frank that he is a wonderful father, but LJ NEEDS his mother. Really? Doesn't she want to think that one through before she signs onto it? After all, his mother just happens to be the same child-woman who was busy wallowing in her bed of self-pity while her toddler son decided to scale those stairs. And if that isn't enough, maybe she'd like to think about LJ's recent stay in a hot, tenth floor hotel room which featured his mother perched on the ledge of the building (with an open window -- in case she changed her mind, I guess). Funny, this is in sharp contrast to a comment Maeve made about Dee a few days back in which she fumed that Dee walked around "pretending" to be a mother. Now I know why this child spends most of his childhood in the bathtub -- he's safer that way. LSUfan said, "MF mentions to Frank a time machine...w/Frank being able to "go back and do the whole thing over again...only this time, with Jill." Well, so much for Little John. " Ahhh....nice catch, LSU. Mary, Mary -- better be careful what you wish for! The child that everyone adores (but pretty much ignores) is still first in line to the throne (PS: This kingdom must be ruled by a Ryan -- no Fenelli offspring will ever wear the crown). LSUfan said: "Roger to Charlie Ferris on phone: "Tell Mr. Ferris the kind of trouble Frank Ryan is in won't be helped by volunteers." Huh? You're talking to Mr. Ferris, Roger." LOLOL -- I missed that! But in all fairness to Roger, he hasn't been out of that chair in days (except to change from his safari shirt into something more 70's casual or to pour himself another scotch), and it does get difficult to remember which person you've called to threaten or cajole. Boy, does this guy need a real job, or what? LSUfan said: "The sign behind Johnny's bar reads, "BURGERAMA $1.75." Is that a burger, fries and drama?" and "Kevin scolds Pat and Frank in the bar, ordering them to lower their voices or else go back in the kitchen." Shame on Kevin! Doesn't he realize that it's the public display of drama that keeps the customers (and us) coming back for more? Johnny finally realized that he can turn his brood's infighting into a marketing scheme (dinner and a floor show). If the battling brothers lowered their voices or headed back to the kitchen, Johnny would have to reduce the price of the BURGERAMA by 50 cents (and making a profit off of rapidly aging ground beef isn't easy). Great post, LSU! Let the games begin....
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Post by discomusic on May 30, 2011 9:01:42 GMT -8
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Post by forte on May 30, 2011 9:07:40 GMT -8
Which, by strange coincidence, is exactly the same size as the apartment in which Faith was invited to dine with that wacky couple, the Fenellis.
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Post by seasonedrefinement on May 31, 2011 6:19:29 GMT -8
I wonder what couples Johnny was referring to when he told Dismal Dee that "plenty of women have their wives leave them".
I wonder what super-mom Maeve was doing while Mary was "practically bringing up Siobhan".
I wonder if LJ will end up sleeping in a drawer of Grandpa Ryan's dresser during his mini-vacation at the Finelli apartment.
I wonder what happened to that gigantic bush Seneca delivered to Jill's office yesterday (it couldn't possibly have morphed into that small potted flower sitting on her office windowsill).
I wonder why Jill feels compelled to answer each and every one of Roger's probing questions about the rally and its aftermath. When Roger asked Jillian if she "saw" (wink, wink) Frank after the rally, she didn't tell him to mind his own damn business. Instead, she sneered at him while affirming that she and Frank did see each other, and she even added that they had enjoyed a "beautiful time together". Even if they shared a friendly brother-sister relationship, that's a rather personal question (especially when it's asked by a leering and smirking individual).
I wonder what's going on at Channel R. Just about a week or two ago, they sent Mary a telegram asking her to cut her honeymoon short because they just couldn't function without her. Now, Mary doesn't even bother to call her office before stating that she can get time off from work to babysit LJ for a few days.
I wonder why, as Mary puts it, Delia "is just lying there, expecting everyone else to take care of her and the baby". Oh yeah, that's right -- because they will.
I wonder why LJ finally stopped crying in the Finelli apartment. Never mind -- I just figured it out. It's because Mary has him in his home away from home: the bathtub.
I wonder if LJ will actually survive his visit with Jack and Mary. Mistake number one wasn't life threatening (talking over the cries of an unhappy, disoriented child while she hung on Jack's neck), but mistake number two (leaving a small toddler alone in a tub of water while she smooched with Jack) could have been disastrous.
I wonder where Frank is showering now that he is living in his office. I wonder if his clean socks are in the filing cabinet marked "S".
I wonder if Frank realizes that there are other options to living in his office. The first thing that comes to mind is the vacant, furnished apartment for which he currently pays rent.
I wonder if Jillian could have chosen plain paper plates as opposed to the American flag themed plates and napkins she chose for her impromptu dinner with Frank. Nothing like reminding him of what he lost last night. I guess he's lucky that she didn't use the newspaper containing Martha's story as a paper tablecloth.
I wonder about the credibility of Mary's earlier claim to have practically raised Siobhan. Her third mistake was leaving the toddler alone on the bed while she argued with Jack. Of course, the child fell off the bed and hit the floor. Luckily, he landed in a sitting position -- what are the chances??? Oh wait, the kid's a Ryan -- they always land right side up.
I wonder if Ilene Kristen wanted to hit Michael Hawkins over the head with her chained purse after he compromised an otherwise decent scene (Dee walks in on Frank and Jill) by CONSTANTLY shifting his eyes to the right to read his cue cards. I despise the character of Delia, but props have to go to IK for playing an emotionally disturbed, rejected wife quite believably (with no help from the cue cards).
I wonder if Frank wanted to shout out to Delia, "Would you send Jill back in before you leave" as Dee was marching out of his office in hysterics.
I wonder what theory of childcare advocates allowing a toddler to "prowl around" a dark, unfamiliar apartment while the caregivers are supposedly asleep (thankfully, Jack remembered to lock the terrace door -- not Mary). Didn't anyone think of bringing the child's playpen? Mary obviously has the ability to get her doctor buddies to deliver huge dressers to the apartment, but no one was available to deliver a playpen?
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Post by forte on May 31, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -8
{I wonder what couples Johnny was referring to when he told Dismal Dee that "plenty of women have their wives leave them".} I noticed this, too! I would have loved to have seen a lesbian couple on this show. It would have really jump started some interesting dialogue about gender roles, sexuality, and just tolerance. Alas, it was not to be. Although I still think Mary would have been a better wife to a woman than to Jack. {I wonder what super-mom Maeve was doing while Mary was "practically bringing up Siobhan".} Whatever Frank needed her to do for him at the time, of course. There was the sewing of the multiple scout badges (you know he earned every single badge available and several that they had to create just to acknowledge his superiority in every area), the daily affirmations before school (Frank, you are the most wonderful son, the smartest person, and the rightful heir to the Ryan throne in Riverside), the preening and bragging to other parents while simultaneously faking humility and helpfulness (of course, Frank didn't need assistance from us to complete his project so I'd be able to help out your little Billy or Jenny with their homework if you like); add in all the time spent cheering for Frank, praising Frank, thanking God that they were chosen to be parents to Frank and not to Roger, and you soon realize that Maeve simply had no time to waste caring for her youngest, most vulnerable child. Obviously, in order to be the kind of parent that Frank deserved, she HAD to leave the baby's upbringing to someone who I believe was 2 or 3 years older than Siobhan. {I wonder what happened to that gigantic bush Seneca delivered to Jill's office yesterday (it couldn't possibly have morphed into that small potted flower sitting on her office windowsill).} Oh, Jill's a wonder with the pruning sheers. {I wonder what's going on at Channel R. Just about a week or two ago, they sent Mary a telegram asking her to cut her honeymoon short because they just couldn't function without her. Now, Mary doesn't even bother to call her office before stating that she can get time off from work to babysit LJ for a few days.} I thought the same thing. She's a little new to be coasting at work already, isn't she? Especially since Channel R is down both Sam and Reenie. The only other people left is the man who runs the camera and the other guy. I wonder if they're airing an empty set to Riverside at newstime every day. I wonder if anyone would notice. {I wonder why, as Mary puts it, Delia "is just lying there, expecting everyone else to take care of her and the baby". Oh yeah, that's right -- because they will.} Kind of like Frank, isn't it? He just assumes someone will make arrangements to take care of his child. Just like he is assuming that Jill will take on the child care responsibilities once their noble and sanctified love can be formally acknowledged in front of all the world. {I wonder if LJ will actually survive his visit with Jack and Mary. Mistake number one wasn't life threatening (talking over the cries of an unhappy, disoriented child while she hung on Jack's neck), but mistake number two (leaving a small toddler alone in a tub of water while she smooched with Jack) could have been disastrous.} Don't forget letting him wander about the apartment during the night with no supervision while they pretended to be sleeping, hoping against hope that LJ would take the hint and lie down (apparently on the bare floor) and conk out. I mean, really. Sad to say but I think LJ is the genius in that apartment. {I wonder where Frank is showering now that he is living in his office. I wonder if his clean socks are in the filing cabinet marked "S".} I wonder if Georgia is now providing laundry service or if Frank is taking his dirty clothes back home to Mother to wash, dry, fluff, and fold. {I wonder if Frank realizes that there are other options to living in his office. The first thing that comes to mind is the vacant, furnished apartment for which he currently pays rent.} Ah, but that has Delia cooties on it. {I wonder if Jillian could have chosen plain paper plates as opposed to the American flag themed plates and napkins she chose for her impromptu dinner with Frank. Nothing like reminding him of what he lost last night. I guess he's lucky that she didn't use the newspaper containing Martha's story as a paper tablecloth.} Methinks there was a little subconscious communication going on there. Hmmmm. Perhaps a reminder to Frank that his one reason for not fully committing to her publicly is no longer an issue? That his campaign is dead in the water regardless of whether he continues to hide his relationship with Jill or acknowledges her in public? {I wonder about the credibility of Mary's earlier claim to have practically raised Siobhan. Her third mistake was leaving the toddler alone on the bed while she argued with Jack. Of course, the child fell off the bed and hit the floor. Luckily, he landed in a sitting position -- what are the chances??? Oh wait, the kid's a Ryan -- they always land right side up.} That would have been the ultimate test of Delia's Ryanness; would she have landed right side up if she had fallen / jumped from the ledge? {I wonder if Ilene Kristen wanted to hit Michael Hawkins over the head with her chained purse after he compromised an otherwise decent scene (Dee walks in on Frank and Jill) by CONSTANTLY shifting his eyes to the right to read his cue cards. I despise the character of Delia, but props have to go to IK for playing an emotionally disturbed, rejected wife quite believably (with no help from the cue cards).} The list of scenes that MH damaged due to his cue card reading, mismatched dialogue and emotion, and general forced quality to his speech boggles the mind. Add to what must have been her frustration as an actor was the likelihood that MH was paid more for his services because he was a man. {I wonder if Frank wanted to shout out to Delia, "Would you send Jill back in before you leave" as Dee was marching out of his office in hysterics.} Oh, I think his expectation was that Jill would be waiting for him until he dismissed her. Unless that pesky Seneca showed up again! {I wonder what theory of childcare advocates allowing a toddler to "prowl around" a dark, unfamiliar apartment while the caregivers are supposedly asleep (thankfully, Jack remembered to lock the terrace door -- not Mary). Didn't anyone think of bringing the child's playpen? Mary obviously has the ability to get her doctor buddies to deliver huge dressers to the apartment, but no one was available to deliver a playpen?} I wrote something very similar in another thread. Nothing to add here; just didn't want you to think I was plagiarizing you. Read more: ryanshopesoapopera.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=242&page=1#2206#ixzz1Ny9Bwrxz
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Post by jasper on May 31, 2011 15:22:16 GMT -8
Oh my!! I have read all these posts and have laughed and laughed. Got to love Ryans Hope!!! jasper-
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 1, 2011 8:34:53 GMT -8
forte said: "Whatever Frank needed her to do for him at the time, of course. There was the sewing of the multiple scout badges (you know he earned every single badge available and several that they had to create just to acknowledge his superiority in every area), the daily affirmations before school (Frank, you are the most wonderful son, the smartest person, and the rightful heir to the Ryan throne in Riverside), the preening and bragging to other parents while simultaneously faking humility and helpfulness (of course, Frank didn't need assistance from us to complete his project so I'd be able to help out your little Billy or Jenny with their homework if you like); add in all the time spent cheering for Frank, praising Frank, thanking God that they were chosen to be parents to Frank and not to Roger..."
[slapping myself in the forehead with the palm of my hand] Of course, of course -- how could I have possibly forgotten the developing superhero! I started giggling at your description of Maeve sewing the standard and newly created badges onto Frank's scout uniform, but I laughed out loud as I pictured Maeve smoothing her hair while casually mentioning that she was available to help the more average Jenny and Billy (since Frank had not only finished his assigned project, but another for extra credit -- bringing his overall grade up to a respectable 104%). But the best? The best was picturing Maeve whispering a silent prayer of thanks because she was chosen to be the vessel that delivered Frank to the world -- instead of Roger.
forte said: "The only other people left is the man who runs the camera and the other guy. I wonder if they're airing an empty set to Riverside at newstime every day. I wonder if anyone would notice."
LOL...an empty set? Yes, I can picture that. A television screen showing a rudimentary news set featuring a homemade "Channel R" poster (hanging askew because the tape on the top left hand corner of the poster finally gave way) and a empty swivel chair. But then again, this isn't all bad. After all, for the Ryans, dead air is preferable to running the story about Riverside's number one son and his publicly derailed congressional bid. Maybe they can re-run footage from the recent Beaulac trial. On second thought, nix that. They weren't covering that story either.
forte said: "Just like he is assuming that Jill will take on the child care responsibilities once their noble and sanctified love can be formally acknowledged in front of all the world."
Nothing to add, forte. Just loved the "noble and sanctified" part!
forte said: "That would have been the ultimate test of Delia's Ryanness; would she have landed right side up if she had fallen / jumped from the ledge?"
LOLOLOLOL! That's why the whole clan panicked when they found out she was on the ledge. They know that these type of anomalies are not transferable by marriage.
forte said: "Oh, I think his expectation was that Jill would be waiting for him until he dismissed her. Unless that pesky Seneca showed up again!"
Really...there he is -- starting a fire on the terrace of the beach house. There he is again -- hiding behind a potted tree he's bringing into Jill's office. Is he kidding? He's lurking behind a lamp post in Central park in the middle of the night? Wow. I guarantee that he will be opening a cab door while shouting, "Jillian, Jillian! Over here!" as Jillian runs out of the lobby of Frank's building following the failed dinner.
forte said, "I wrote something very similar in another thread. Nothing to add here; just didn't want you to think I was plagiarizing you."
I'm happy to see that a lot of posters mentioned the babysitting fiasco. Great minds and all that!
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 1, 2011 10:37:33 GMT -8
I wonder what happened to Mary's breezy declaration that she could take time off from work to stay with LJ for a few days. With the dawning of the sun, she was rushing around to get to an interview with the school board president. Too bad Jack doesn't have an outside office to go to. No doubt, he's going to end up fulfilling her obligations.
I wonder where any and all Ryans are as Delia rants and raves at a visibly incapacitated Maeve. There's always someone lurking around the apartment -- why not this morning?
I wonder how despondent Dee, who is so completely distraught that she can't possibly think of watching her own child for a few hours, managed to coordinate her green and pink plaid shirt with the green barrettes in her hair. The way she's been acting, you'd expect her to be wandering the subways with unwashed hair while wearing a bathrobe and two different slippers.
I wonder how Maeve felt when she was rescued from Dramatic Dee by an outsider. Yay, Jack!
I wonder if Attorney Ann Birney always says the same thing in two ways in one sentence, or if having Delia sitting in front of her just made her nervous. Her opening statement to Delia about a woman considering divorce and wanting to take a look at her attorney was: "That's perfectly sensible AND it makes a lot of sense".
I wonder if Attorney Ann Birney likes to watch Jeopardy (get the answer first, then ask the question). Delia said to Ann, "Frank, he's my husband, he told me I had to go get a lawyer, so Roger Colerdige gave me a name...My husband isn't living with me -- he said he never will again. He told me the marriage is over. Look, whatever happens, I don't want Frank to take my baby away from me". Ann Birney replies, "Why did you come to see a lawyer?".
I wonder if Mary realizes that Jack's career didn't just materialize -- it's been built on years of hard work and dedication. His professional reputation seems to precede him, and the respect he's garnered among his colleagues is based on his journalistic integrity and talent. Mary has no problem asking Jack to call in huge professional favors (based on that reputation) when it suits the occasion (like killing the first McKee story), but when it comes to meeting the obligations that foster that kind of gravitas, Mary suddenly forgets the rules. In choosing between conflicting commitments she's made (local school board interview vs. babysitting her nephew), Jack's career obligations take a back seat. In her opinion, he had no right to return LJ to Dee without first consulting her (a consultation that would have ended when Mary said that she was still needed at Channel R, so Jack should take the kid for a walk and forget his article).
I wonder if Jack realizes that he already has a child to raise (i.e., Mary).
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Post by destclev on Jun 1, 2011 14:04:55 GMT -8
I wonder if Mary realizes that Jack's career didn't just materialize -- it's been built on years of hard work and dedication. His professional reputation seems to precede him, and the respect he's garnered among his colleagues is based on his journalistic integrity and talent. Mary has no problem asking Jack to call in huge professional favors (based on that reputation) when it suits the occasion (like killing the first McKee story), but when it comes to meeting the obligations that foster that kind of gravitas, Mary suddenly forgets the rules. In choosing between conflicting commitments she's made (local school board interview vs. babysitting her nephew), Jack's career obligations take a back seat. In her opinion, he had no right to return LJ to Dee without first consulting her (a consultation that would have ended when Mary said that she was still needed at Channel R, so Jack should take the kid for a walk and forget his article). I wonder if Jack realizes that he already has a child to raise (i.e., Mary). Could not agree more! Mary acts as if Jack's fine reputation is available to her to use as pocket change. And then she wants her "career" to be taken seriously. Yikes!
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Post by forte on Jun 1, 2011 14:57:07 GMT -8
{{I wonder what happened to Mary's breezy declaration that she could take time off from work to stay with LJ for a few days. With the dawning of the sun, she was rushing around to get to an interview with the school board president. }}
Now, now. Mary is probably on another breaking story. You know how hard hitting the news is at Channel R! (I always think the R stands for Really?) She can't coast on her ?crest Manor story forever, you know. That's not how real professional journalists do things. That school board president probably had something to hide. Possibly a long-term affair, family member with a suicide attempt, or maybe he pulled the plug on his spouse. Just the kind of thing that Channel R will, no MUST, communicate to the public. And not just because Mary will do anything to take the focus off of Frank. And certainly not because Mary herself was dying to get away from her nephew. No! This is a sacred duty and no one can handle this hard hitting story like a Ryan. Jack is just going to have to understand. A supportive husband would, you know. Johnny would have understood. (Never mind the fact that Johnny wouldn't leave work to care for LJ just like Jack; that is completely beside the point.)
{{I wonder where any and all Ryans are as Delia rants and raves at a visibly incapacitated Maeve. There's always someone lurking around the apartment -- why not this morning?}}
Maeve is much more popular with her family and friends when she is the one doling out the assistance rather than needing the help. Her family and friends scattered like a litter of kittens looking at their first bath. I was a little sad for her at first, but then I realized that this was probably the first time she had had to herself since she left Ireland. I wouldn't blame her if she milked the injury for an extra day.
{{I wonder how despondent Dee, who is so completely distraught that she can't possibly think of watching her own child for a few hours, managed to coordinate her green and pink plaid shirt with the green barrettes in her hair. The way she's been acting, you'd expect her to be wandering the subways with unwashed hair while wearing a bathrobe and two different slippers.}}
That Dee. The paragon of multi tasking. She's not only Despondent Dee, all depressed and pitiful and abandoned by her husband, she's Damsel in Distress Dee, dressed and ready to be seen and consoled by Pat at a moment's notice. You won't catch her napping; well, at least, not unless she wants you to.
{{I wonder how Maeve felt when she was rescued from Dramatic Dee by an outsider. Yay, Jack!}}
Yet another layer to Our Dee! No wonder she is so tired - she's living the life of three women. Next time she invents a friend maybe she should name her Sybil.
{{I wonder if Attorney Ann Birney always says the same thing in two ways in one sentence, or if having Delia sitting in front of her just made her nervous. Her opening statement to Delia about a woman considering divorce and wanting to take a look at her attorney was: "That's perfectly sensible AND it makes a lot of sense". }}
Oh, you caught me on this one. I didn't notice it. What a laugh. I'll have to watch to see if she keeps it up. You know, now that I think about it, all soap characters repeat themselves constantly from scene to scene or episode to episode. It's a genre of perpetual summaries. Ann was just being proactive and getting it out of the way.
{{I wonder if Attorney Ann Birney likes to watch Jeopardy (get the answer first, then ask the question). Delia said to Ann, "Frank, he's my husband, he told me I had to go get a lawyer, so Roger Colerdige gave me a name...My husband isn't living with me -- he said he never will again. He told me the marriage is over. Look, whatever happens, I don't want Frank to take my baby away from me". Ann Birney replies, "Why did you come to see a lawyer?". }}
LOL! Too funny. As I was watching this this morning I actually wondered if anyone really listens to what Dee says. I have this image in my mind of Dee talking and everyone in Riverside only hearing the Wah Wah Wah sound from the Peanuts cartoons. I'd stomped my foot, too.
{{I wonder if Mary realizes that Jack's career didn't just materialize -- it's been built on years of hard work and dedication. His professional reputation seems to precede him, and the respect he's garnered among his colleagues is based on his journalistic integrity and talent. }}
Well, of course, that's the way non-Ryans HAVE to do it. Mary is exempt by right of lineage.
{{Could not agree more! Mary acts as if Jack's fine reputation is available to her to use as pocket change. And then she wants her "career" to be taken seriously. Yikes! }}
Mary expects everyone to be of use to the Ryans. That's how she establishes the value of others. In many ways, Mary is a user. She also has issues with delayed gratification, if you ask me.
{{I wonder if Jack realizes that he already has a child to raise (i.e., Mary).}}
If only someone in the relationship was capable of raising the other. I think they both need to sit on the shelf and ripen a little more. Whatever their ages, they're both green tomatoes to me. (And not the kind you fry.)
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Post by originalbunnymom on Jun 1, 2011 17:49:02 GMT -8
<I wonder if Attorney Ann Birney likes to watch Jeopardy (get the answer first, then ask the question). Delia said to Ann, "Frank, he's my husband, he told me I had to go get a lawyer, so Roger Colerdige gave me a name...My husband isn't living with me -- he said he never will again. He told me the marriage is over. Look, whatever happens, I don't want Frank to take my baby away from me." Ann Birney replies, "Why did you come to see a lawyer?">
I was thinking of $10,000/$25,000 Pyramid myself: "Reasons Deliah Reid Ryan Would Seek Out A Lawyer"...
Heh Heh!
;-) Marianne
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Post by forte on Jun 3, 2011 15:02:48 GMT -8
I've only seen a bit of today's episodes, so jump in with whatever I missed.
I wonder if Mary was aware that she was smirking when she asked to see the divorce papers Dee was served in the bar today. She was lucky that Dee was preoccupied; otherwise, she might have slapped the smirk right off her face and set me to cheering. I can understand that a person might be relieved when a loved one is divorcing a spouse that you believe is bad for someone you love. It's another thing to enjoy knowing someone else is in pain; being so public with your happiness at someone's else's expense is like pouring vinegar on the wound. Mary is not a compassionate person. She also doesn't seem to realize that what goes around comes around.
I wonder how smart Seneca can be if he is asking Bucky "I'm a nice guy / multi millionnaire who wants marriage and still can't get a woman" Carter for advice on wooing Jill. That's like asking Maeve for cooking tips, Jumbo for his exercise program, or Roger for advice on how to make friends and influence people. I mean, really? At the very least, Bucky won't suggest he send Jill a branch or pine cone or whatever else he can pick up during a quick hike, like most of his gifts. I just hope he doesn't offer the use of the houseboat.
Come to think of it, Seneca was talking about how Dee fooled him when Frank was in the hospital. Huh? The mighty Bolland Award Winner was outsmarted by Dee? I'm thinking Seneca has lost a few IQ points somewhere along the way. Of course, many people lose IQ points when they become infatuated with someone. Practically an inverse relationship between being infatuated and being smart, when you come to think of it.
Wouldn't it be funny if Seneca were to commission a giant portrait of Jill a la Kenneth's portrait of Faith? Let's hope he doesn't find out she likes birdies, too. I hope Jill doesn't start hearing the word "fenestrations" coming from Seneca.
I wonder, if Dee ends up divorced and is no longer a Ryan, will she be allowed to purchase a dress that isn't green? Although I think she looks fabulous in green, it's getting to be a bit much.
I wonder how Mary could be so snippy to Dee about Johnny looking after LJ while Dee was working in the bar. First of all, does Dee get paid? Or is she just expected to pitch in and work for free because she is a member of the family? How can you get upset with someone for not watching their baby when they're expected to work for you, too? Is she supposed to crochet a papoose or baby backpack and carry LJ around with her as she serves beer? If she's working off her room and board, then I guess Frank has already reneged on his promise to provide for his wife and child after only a few days. It seems to me the Ryans want it both ways; Dee should be pitching in with the bar and should be responsible for LJ simultaneously. Meanwhile, Frank is free to work a job for which he gets paid, can come and go as he likes, and is considered a model parent if he looks in on his child for a few minutes every day. Apparently the special at Ryans today (and every day) is Double Standard with a side of Indentured Servant.
I wonder if the couple that was enjoying the violin solo was angry that Bucky intruded on the performance. He really just barged in like he belonged. Like he thought he was a Ryan, actually. Damn! I think the Ryans are contagious. We may be in danger of the entire Riverside population suddenly acting as though they are entitled to flount the rules and disregard the feelings of others.
I wonder how tall the violinist was. Bucky literally towered over him. They probably wouldn't have been able to get him and Seneca in the same screen.
I wonder if we should start referring to Mary and Jack's place as the Apartment of Doom. They should be required to have a permit before they are allowed to invite innocent people to their place for dinner parties. Perhaps they should only allow guests when a licensed counselor or police negotiator are present. Someone with expertise in anger management and crises deescalation. It might be a good idea for someone with training in hostage negotiations to attend as well, just as a precaution, you understand. At the very least, Mary and Jack should have to provide a disclaimer to anyone they invite into their home. Warning! You will definitely be put in the middle of at least one temper tantrum, hissy fit, or marital argument personal enough to make you feel embarrassed and rue the day you ever met the Ryan-Fenellis.
I saw Igor! Only for a few seconds, but there he was, pushing with all his heart. Thank goodness. I was getting worried about him.
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Post by discomusic on Jun 4, 2011 8:16:06 GMT -8
Forte said:I wonder, if Dee ends up divorced and is no longer a Ryan, will she be allowed to purchase a dress that isn't green? Although I think she looks fabulous in green, it's getting to be a bit much. FUNNY !!! I have thought this for a long time
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 4, 2011 8:26:47 GMT -8
forte said: "I wonder if Mary was aware that she was smirking when she asked to see the divorce papers Dee was served in the bar today...I can understand that a person might be relieved when a loved one is divorcing a spouse that you believe is bad for someone you love. It's another thing to enjoy knowing someone else is in pain..."
At the very least, this turn of events justifies an increase in the $1.75 price of the BURGERAMA (burger + drama -- a la LSUfan). Apparently, The Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots (Frank and Pat) were just the warm-up act! "The Delia, Mary, and The Process Server Trio" floor show featured better acoustics, the possibility of a blond vs. brunette girl fight, and the long arm of the law -- that's gotta be worth an additional dollar!
I realize that Mary and Frank have a legendary sibling dynamic, and despite the fact that Mary is the Ying to Frank's Yang, the Gretel to Frank's Hansel, and the Marie to Frank's Donny, it still stands to reason that Frank can handle his own divorce without his sister cheering his touchdowns. Running over to Delia to ask if she could see the newly served divorce petition wasn't Mary's most genuine moment (and neither was calling a fleeing Delia "honey" after Mary had already greeted Delia with a few passive/aggressive quips). I know Mary wants to see Frank and Jill together, but even she must realize that there are some aspects of her brother's broken marriage that are off limits to her. Escorting Dee from the bar? That would have been great. Salivating over Dee's marching orders? Not so great (at least not in public).
forte said: "That's like asking Maeve for cooking tips, Jumbo for his exercise program, or Roger for advice on how to make friends and influence people."
LOL! Can I add a few more? It's also like asking Kenneth what it was like to be the keynote speaker at a recent mental health symposium, asking Ed Coleridge for the address of the local chapter of The World High Diving Federation, or asking Jack to share his latest submission to Hallmark -- written specifically for their line of sentimental Fathers' Days cards. Actually, the possibilities are endless...
forte said: "I wonder if we should start referring to Mary and Jack's place as the Apartment of Doom. They should be required to have a permit before they are allowed to invite innocent people to their place for dinner parties... At the very least, Mary and Jack should have to provide a disclaimer to anyone they invite into their home. Warning! You will definitely be put in the middle of at least one temper tantrum, hissy fit, or marital argument personal enough to make you feel embarrassed and rue the day you ever met the Ryan-Fenellis."
Great idea! Poor Alex...I can only imagine that he was breathing a sigh of relief as he closed the apartment door and headed for the stairs. The average person is pretty uncomfortable when he/she realizes that a social visit includes occupying a ringside seat at a domestic squabble (especially when the couple's bed serves as the ringside seat, lol). Thankfully, the Finelli's didn't ask Alex to referee their dispute -- something I truly believed was going to happen.
forte said: "I saw Igor!"
Funny thing about Igor -- just when you're about to forget that he exists, there he is (sort of like Little John).
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