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Post by lsufan4667 on Jun 4, 2011 11:28:36 GMT -8
"It's a sticky link,which will keep it at the top. "
Thank you, Tom! And with that permission...I'll continue. BTW, thanks to everyone who continued to spearhead the snafus this past week; I've been reading and laughing my ass off (haha...no "forbidden word! ). My first grandbaby was due June 7th, but she surprised us on Memorial Day...born at 4:00 p.m.! Consequently, this past week has been a blur and I haven't even been able to update my RH epis. (I think I'm 5 or 6 behind. )I wonder...A while back, Roger was wearing these God-awful blue pants that looked like a piece of fabric was added at the bottom (for several years) as he continued to increase in height. (He was wearing them when he called Charlie Ferris.) Speaking of Charlie, why is he yelling at the people gathered at Frank's political rally while standing behind a microphone? Frank thanks all of his supporters and volunteers for their help, yet Georgia doesn't attend the rally? Can someone show Charlie how to tie his tie so that it at least touches his belt line? Bobby asking Frank a question at the rally: "When you get elected and go to Congress, you gonna take your dad down there and open blub blub blub?" Someone please tell me my hearing is not going bad...he sounded like a buffoon! Since swinging double doors are meant to expedite the transport of patients in wheelchairs or on stretchers, why have a sign on the double doors that reads, "OPEN SLOWLY" when both doors have windows? Pat and Faith visit Sarah Garrison, a Pediatrics patient. Pat to Sarah: "Hey! No roommates, huh?" Correct, Pat. No parents, either. I guess if she has another seizure, she better time it for when someone just happens to walk through her door. Forget Mom bringing more berries tomorrow...tell her to get her ass to the hospital to be with her child! (Apparently the blankets are color-coded at Riverside Hosp. Green for Surgery, Neurology, Psychiatry... red for Pediatrics.) Nothing like soothing an anxious, seizure-prone child with questions about magic and witches. Yep, that oughta do it. Poor Sarah has a partially-played checker game on her table. I wonder who will win? Sarah or Sarah? Bob and Mary are in the parlor with Frank, who's seated on the sofa. Dee sneaks across the threshold of the French doors, which are facing Frank, yet he doesn't see her? ;D Why would Frank's high school football trophy be in his parents' bedroom? He's married, a father, a college and law school grad, a former policeman, and is running for state senator. I give up. Maeve recounts the story when Frank accepted that trophy, Mary jumping up and down at the awards banquet, knocking over a glass of water into the Monsignor's lap. "That dear man; he DID take it well." He surely did...except for worrying if people who didn't attend thinking he pissed his pants. Frank reads the Village Banner article. Is that Nanny McPhee flying across the front page? On Jack's copy of the Banner, McKee's article is on the front page (as he shows it to Mary); Frank tells Jill the article is on "page 3, column 1." Jill to Frank: "Charlie's speech made me cry." Huh? All he did was yell and laugh at the crowd. While they are in bed, arms around each other, Frank kisses Jill and she says, "First of all, I wish I was Charlie Ferris." Not gonna touch that one. Poor Charlie. Maeve offers him a cup of coffee and serves it in the same (used) cup she previously poured back into the pot. Maeve RE Little John: "Poor babe; he's exhausted after last night." Huh? Where was he and what was he doing to be so "exhausted?" Trying to climb out of the Ryans' clawfoot tub? Charlie to Muh, Duh and Frank: "It's hard not to think of all the times we spent around this table, huh? Planning, thinking, scheming. Isn't it?" Huh? I remember Charlie planning and scheming with Frank and Johnny in the Ryans' parlor...not the kitchen. Frank tells Charlie he wrote his resignation letter "on the way over here." How? Is it a handwritten letter? Did he have a handy-dandy typewriter on his lap in the cab or car? Can't be...he walked into the bar empty handed. Somehow I can't visualize Ed Coleridge, a stuffy, non-personal neurosurgeon and absent father, planting a field of flowers near the beach house. At the end of the episode when Maeve bends over and hurts her back, there are numerous dishes on the kitchen table. At the beginning of the next epi, she's still bent over, but the table is clear. Why does Dee need two mirrors on her vanity table? (One w/lights; one w/o.) Mary to LJ at their apt: "You make yourself at home, baby." He's a toddler, Mary. Toddlers can't comprehend that phrase. She then tells him, "Oh, don't cry." Well, then, since that's all he ever does, he can't 'make himself at home,' now can he? Jack returns from the terrace after sleeping in a chaise lounge all night. Mary is seated at the typewriter desk, using the phone. Why couldn't SHE pick up the papers on the floor? HER nephew knocked them over. HER husband is exhausted. Why did Dee pull a slip of paper out of her pocket and then only dial "411?" (She never even looked at the paper.) Have a good weekend, all! Stay cool!
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Post by lstef1983 on Jun 4, 2011 12:47:12 GMT -8
CONGRATULATIONS LSU!!!! What a wonderful time for your family!! I'm sure instinctively you know WHAT to do (love that little baby). But I ran into Little John Ryan (he still calls himself that, not sure why - can't imagine it gets him a lot of dates) in my therapist's waiting room, and he asked me to pass this along: Please don't leave the baby in the tub until pruney, let the baby play on the stairs, forget the baby in the park, or let the baby cross the street alone. I'm sure there was more...
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Post by scarlettudor on Jun 4, 2011 13:39:11 GMT -8
Congratulations on the new grandbaby, LSU! We forgive you for being behind on epis. Heck, we'd forgive you even if there weren't a newborn baby involved. We're just grateful you're here.
Now I know what a sticky link is. That's what the SN mod was using when he had his message of great import stuck on the top of the old board awhile back.
Sue Ellen
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Post by faithcoleridge on Jun 4, 2011 14:11:46 GMT -8
Congratulations on the birth of your first grandchild! Enjoy every minute you can spend with her.
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 4, 2011 14:19:16 GMT -8
Congratulations!!!!! I knew the time was quickly approaching, and I actually considered starting a thread called, "HEY!!! Grandma LSU! Where are you?"
Name? Weight? Height? Everyone OK? You just wait -- the best (and I mean BEST) times are ahead! Being a grandmother is FABULOUS!
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Post by forte on Jun 5, 2011 5:31:45 GMT -8
{{At the very least, this turn of events justifies an increase in the $1.75 price of the BURGERAMA (burger + drama -- a la LSUfan). Apparently, The Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots (Frank and Pat) were just the warm-up act! "The Delia, Mary, and The Process Server Trio" floor show featured better acoustics, the possibility of a blond vs. brunette girl fight, and the long arm of the law -- that's gotta be worth an additional dollar!}}
I hadn’t thought of this in terms of a floor show. Absolutely! Perhaps they could have a tour of the bar and apartment as well. Watching Maeve cook could fit nicely into the Halloween show; it’s absolutely terrifying to think she serves her finger stirred, dirty dishtowel dried food to others. Everyone could genuflect when the see the chair lift on the stairs on which Sir Frank the Sanctimonious actually set his actual bum. Visitors could be offered the chance to provide a little donation for the opportunity to touch the living room afghan and say a prayer to their favorite Ryan. They could end the tour with a visit to the bathroom and the magical bathtub of Little John, heir apparent to the Ryan throne should he actually survive the on again / off again attempts to actually provide some sort of supervision to him.
{{LOL! Can I add a few more? It's also like asking Kenneth what it was like to be the keynote speaker at a recent mental health symposium, asking Ed Coleridge for the address of the local chapter of The World High Diving Federation, or asking Jack to share his latest submission to Hallmark -- written specifically for their line of sentimental Fathers' Days cards. Actually, the possibilities are endless...}}
Like asking Bucky for tips on dating (uh oh, Seneca just did that), asking Kenneth for his decorating advice, and asking Sheila for her help in serving a multi course Chinese dinner. {{Thankfully, the Finelli's didn't ask Alex to referee their dispute -- something I truly believed was going to happen.}}
Alex got out just in time. He was at most minutes away from being asked to take a side or declare a winner. Unfortunately he seems too nice to turn a hose on the both of them, which is what I think it will take to wake them up to the fact that they are terrible friends, ungracious hosts, and conducting their lives with all the maturity of 14 year olds in the throes of a massive hormone rush. There should be a badge they each have to wear in public: Not Ready for Interacting with the Public – Engage at you Own Risk.
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Post by lsufan4667 on Jun 5, 2011 11:08:52 GMT -8
" CONGRATULATIONS LSU!!!! What a wonderful time for your family!!"Thanks, lstef! How sweet of you. "But I ran into Little John Ryan (he still calls himself that, not sure why - can't imagine it gets him a lot of dates) in my therapist's waiting room, and he asked me to pass this along: Please don't leave the baby in the tub until pruney, let the baby play on the stairs, forget the baby in the park, or let the baby cross the street alone. I'm sure there was more..."Now that just made me LOL! I can picture an oversized, blonde gentleman wearing "footed" pajamas and carrying around a bottle (of Scotch) w/a nipple on it, crying loudly in the therapist's waiting room. Too much! Thanks for the laugh! "Congratulations on the new grandbaby, LSU! We forgive you for being behind on epis. Heck, we'd forgive you even if there weren't a newborn baby involved. We're just grateful you're here."Again, how sweet, Sue Ellen. Your post means a lot to me. "Congratulations on the birth of your first grandchild! Enjoy every minute you can spend with her."Thank you, FC. I love being able to rock her while watching the funny expressions newborns make w/o even knowing they're doing it. So innocent and beautiful. "Congratulations!!!!! I knew the time was quickly approaching, and I actually considered starting a thread called, "HEY!!! Grandma LSU! Where are you?"
Name? Weight? Height? Everyone OK? You just wait -- the best (and I mean BEST) times are ahead! Being a grandmother is FABULOUS!Hey SR! 8 lbs. 2 oz. 21 1/2 inches long. Out of an abundance of caution, let's just say we'll call her "Maddie, " which is nothing like her given name. (I'm not on Facebook, Myspace, etc. Just don't take any chances.) Mom and baby are doing fine. Beautiful child...and I've seen many, many newborns...some gorgeous...some couldn't help having forcep marks and misshapen heads, but beautiful nonetheless. Not sure what color her eyes will eventually be; they're just dark grayish-blue now. Her mother has beautiful, dark brown eyes; my son's eyes are royal blue. (No kidding.) I think she takes after my hubby. She wrinkled her face, farted four times, then wanted to nurse again. ;D As for the "I Wonders" y'all have posted, I am holding my side from laughing so much (mainly Forte and SR). You gals have an unbeatable "humor volley" going that just makes a person want to continue reading. Thanks for all that y'all do.
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 5, 2011 13:23:02 GMT -8
Oops...I realized after I posted my questions that you were probably going to exercise caution and keep her name off-line. Absolutely understandable!
My grandson had the same gray-blue eyes when he was born. His father is Italian -- deep, brown eyes. My daughter has Siberian Husky blue eyes (No kidding, lol). Their son ended up with a biege/greenish color -- don't know what color you'd actually call them (he'll have to pick something when he finally gets his drivers' license -- and may he fail his road test a few dozen times before he passes as this particular grandmother doesn't want a 16 year old grandson behind the wheel of a car for a long, long while, lol).
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 6, 2011 7:18:58 GMT -8
LSUfan said: "A while back, Roger was wearing these God-awful blue pants that looked like a piece of fabric was added at the bottom (for several years) as he continued to increase in height. (He was wearing them when he called Charlie Ferris.)" Yesss! I distinctly remember those pants! I call them his "inchworm jeans" (which works well with your idea that more fabric was added to accommodate Roger's increase in height). There's a far less palatable area to which you could apply the concept of the ever expanding pants, LSU (especially when the owner of the pants is Fruit of the Loom-less Roger Coleridge), but you're a grandmother now...lol. LSUfan said: "Speaking of Charlie, why is he yelling at the people gathered at Frank's political rally while standing behind a microphone?" AND "Jill to Frank: 'Charlie's speech made me cry.' Huh? All he did was yell and laugh at the crowd." Because Frank is made of pure light, goodness, and humility -- and when you get a chance to introduce a deity to his following, you tend to go a little overboard on the acoustics. You know, I would think that Charlie would tone down the rhetoric on his "Riverside's number one son" speeches in light of the complications that now invariably arise when Frank is on the ticket. As if the City Council election wasn't enough (which led to the family camping out at party headquarters and biting their nails while Frank's wife lied to an election committee to save his political career), Charlie has recently received an ominous phone call regarding another impending Ryan scandal (of a more hopeless variety than the first one). I actually expected Charlie to give Roger's phone call more credibility than he did, and, at the very lease, Charlie should have considered the possibility that the alleged scandal would come up at the rally. That's not good for the candidate OR the party. Everything else aside, I think the best idea would have been for Frank to serve in his current capacity as a councilman for a while (more than a year) before moving on to a congressional bid. As for Jill and her tears? I don't remember seeing her cry at the rally (although she did have a dewy, glowing look on her face). I tend to think that Delia the Doorman would have seen and noted Jill's tears -- it's something she'd put in her arsenal for use at the next "Frank and Jill" battle. In any event, if Jill is this emotional about Frank's various successes, lets hope that she's busy in court when Frank plays in a St. A's alumni football game, because if he scores a touchdown (or 20) while Jill's in the bleachers, it's going to be a real tear-fest. LSUfan said: "Can someone show Charlie how to tie his tie so that it at least touches his belt line? That tie is Charlie's good luck tie. He wore it when he won the fifth grade spelling bee, and now he clips it on whenever he feels the need for Lady Luck's touch. After the debacle that was the Ryan Rally, Charlie may finally retire his little tie to the attic and buy something from the men's department. LSUfan said: "Frank thanks all of his supporters and volunteers for their help, yet Georgia doesn't attend the rally? Georgia had a scheduling conflict. She was busy making up Frank's bed on the office couch, making sure that the office lamp was kept on so a potentially tipsy Frank wouldn't trip over something after his post-rally celebration, sorting Frank's clean socks (thanks, forte!), and setting up the coffee pot for Frank's first morning cup. Behind every great man is a great Georgia! LSUfan said: "Bobby asking Frank a question at the rally: "When you get elected and go to Congress, you gonna take your dad down there and open blub blub blub?" Someone please tell me my hearing is not going bad...he sounded like a buffoon! Haha! Your hearing is fine, LSU. Bob blew that line (I actually felt sorry for the actor. It was one of those "OMG! Everyone's looking at me, I have one lousy line, I blew it, what do I do to save this because I know they'll never reshoot it!" moments). Bob's a decent guy, but Debbie, our resident wordsmith, calls him Booby for a reason, lol. LSUfan said: "Nothing like soothing an anxious, seizure-prone child with questions about magic and witches. Yep, that oughta do it." Really, is this guy a doctor or Hans Christian O'Anderson? When he's not busy fluffing the clouds, lighting the stars, and putting the sparkle into rivers, he wanders the halls of the hospital in a white jacket just waiting to be called upon to calm anxious children with his stories of witches and magicians. Is there no subject under the sun that lacks a corresponding Celtic tale (berries? really? There's a story about berries?)? LSUfan said: "While they are in bed, arms around each other, Frank kisses Jill and she says, "First of all, I wish I was Charlie Ferris." Seriously, he did? How did I miss an opening like that? Strange thing to say -- I'm not even sure that Charlie Ferris wants to be Charlie Ferris. Imagine the groundbreaking plot line possibilities that went unnoticed! As Frank is uttering his wish, somewhere across town Charlie Ferris and his wife are also in bed. At exactly the same instant that Frank utters his wish, Charlie says to Mrs. Ferris, "I wish I was Frank Ryan". Add a wave of magical Pat Ryan's wand, and voila! Frank is in Charlie's body, and Charlie is in Frank's body. Mrs. Ferris is very happy, Dee suddenly gives up her fight to keep her husband, and Jill's noble love for Frank remains intact (she's in love with the inner man and all that....). LSUfan said: "Frank tells Charlie he wrote his resignation letter 'on the way over here.' How? Is it a handwritten letter? Did he have a handy-dandy typewriter on his lap in the cab or car?" No typewriter, LSU. Frank used the goldtone Cross pen he won after submitting the winning poster for Fire Prevention Week, 1962 (actually, the poster was so good that he won second and third place as well). Can you imagine the news story on this one? "Riverside's congressional hopeful, Councilman Frank Ryan, wasted no time in responding to hints of an impending scandal amidst allegations of marital infidelity raised at his most recent public rally. He forfeited his political aspirations less than 24 hours after the rally, and he submitted a brief resignation letter that is completely illegible. Says Party Chair Charlie Ferris, 'Hey, Frank Ryan is aces with me! But even he can't be expected to write a decipherable letter while riding in the back seat of a NYC cab. Potholes, traffic, and that kind of thing...'. LSUfan said: "Jack returns from the terrace after sleeping in a chaise lounge all night. Mary is seated at the typewriter desk, using the phone. Why couldn't SHE pick up the papers on the floor? HER nephew knocked them over. HER husband is exhausted." Because Mary is very busy practicing rolling her "R"s, channeling Katherine Hepburn, and trying to think of another green outfit she can wear to work. Now, off to today's episodes!
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Post by destclev on Jun 6, 2011 7:29:51 GMT -8
That tie is Charlie's good luck tie. He wore it when he won the fifth grade spelling bee, and now he clips it on whenever he feels the need for Lady Luck's touch. After the debacle that was the Ryan Rally, Charlie may finally retire his little tie to the attic and buy something from the men's department. Cannot stop laughing! The men's department! (Nothing like calling a little extra attention to your pot belly.)
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Post by seasonedrefinement on Jun 6, 2011 9:45:36 GMT -8
I wonder if the writers were using a template from Mel Brooks, "Young Frankenstein" when setting up the first scene. In a dark alley, we have the violinist (and he's even dressed like Frau Blucher, the violin wielding hag from the movie), Dr. Carter (an American doctor with a pedigree he likes to keep to himself), and Stretch Beaulac (certainly as tall as the monster, but slightly less coordinated, as is evidenced in his failed attempt to toss flowers up to Jillian). Hmmm.....which savage beast is the violinist attempting to soothe? Is it Seneca and his raging, unrequited love, or is it Frank and his raging, sometimes requited love? Oh well, excelsior!
I wonder if Jillian likes to play games with the men who are head over heels in love with her. She knows that Seneca is becoming a tad obsessive in his pursuit of her. She knows that she's spent the night with him in the passion of "friendship". She knows that he practically challenged Frank to a duel for her hand at the beach house. Actually, Frank realizes a lot of this as well. Still, they laugh about the musical trio in the alley, and while Frank half-jokingly suggests dumping water on them, Jillian continues to giggle and bask in this testosterone fueled attention.
I wonder if Jillian realizes that there is usually an easy way to do something and a hard way to do something. In the case of the wandering musicians ending up at her apartment door, she feels the need to hide Frank. Easy Way: Tell Frank to go into the bedroom, close the door, and keep your pals in the living room. Despite the fact that Seneca and friends are drunk, I doubt that any of them would consider barging into her bedroom. Hard Way: Rush Frank down the front stairs, have him hail a cab to his office, let him climb the stairs to his office, and have him sit at his desk until Jillian calls and meets him there later. Dumb.
I wonder if Delia realizes that she is the last person in Ryanland who should be pondering whether "it pays to be a good person". She might try it -- at least once -- before giving up on the idea.
I wonder how Seneca and Bucky would have felt if Jill closed the door on them while the violinist was inside the apartment and they were still blabbing and stumbling in the hall. Hey, why not turn this love triangle into a perfect square?
I wonder why Jill said she's never been serenaded before? Do you mean to tell me that she can't hear Seneca's multiple replays of "Hello Again" -- but we have to?
I wonder why Mary supported her declaration of Jack's unwillingness to share their lives with a baby with two flawed examples of his rigidity: cutting their honeymoon short (he gave in) and sharing apartment space with her (he gave in again).
I wonder what impact Mary thought the word "annulment" would have on Jack. He's right -- she said it as a threat, and all of her declarations to the contrary ring hollow.
I wonder what Mary meant when she told Alex that she and Jack don't usually argue in front of friends. I guess it's technically true because they don't seem to have any friends to fight in front of. Oh wait...they did have a dinner party with Pat and Faith, and if I recall correctly, Mary ended up fighting with Pat on the terrace. So, maybe Mary should have just told Alex she was sorry and left it at that.
I wonder how Mary, whose schedule was so packed that she couldn't accompany her husband to the airport -- let alone Washington, found the time to chat about her daily domestic strife with virtual stranger, Dr. Alex (and doesn't he have patients to see?).
I wonder what constitutes a "small miracle" in Dr. Alex's world. All he's seen of the new and improved Fenelli is an offering of bourbon and a fight with his wife. Where is all this evidence he's referring to?
I wonder how Jack will feel when he realizes that his wife has entrusted his old army buddy with the knowledge that her marriage to him is "a job she's taken on". She goes on to say that eventually Jack will realize that he can trust her. Really? Well, Mare, this little consult is a great way to get that project off the ground.
I wonder if Dr. Alex realizes that Mary Ryan is not the first person who refused to give up on Jack. Paging Sr. Mary Joel...
I wonder if Mary will ever stop inviting people to weigh in on her marriage, or, more precisely, on Jack. Now Pat and Kevin have been advised that Jack doesn't share Pat's interest in Mary's work (which, under normal circumstances, isn't really true).
I wonder if Jill forgot to lock her front door, which, of course, will allow Dee and Pat to walk in and complete the final phase of her plan. Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow....
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Post by fairplay28 on Jun 6, 2011 9:57:00 GMT -8
Great job!
I think Dee does believe she is a good person. Just another symptom of her pathology.
I agree, Jill is loving that attention.
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Jun 6, 2011 13:10:30 GMT -8
As much as I hate it, Mary had to tell Alex that "Every woman whom Jack ever loved left him." It's the explanation for his intense need for her; why the word "annulment" made him freak out; and an important detail that they audience needs to keep in mind. But I have to admit, I was ready to slug her. To tell something that intimate to first her family; then every resident of New York City, and now to spread her spiel to the residents of Tennessee (James, watch out!) is a little too much.
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Post by forte on Jun 6, 2011 15:42:00 GMT -8
{{I wonder if the writers were using a template from Mel Brooks, "Young Frankenstein" when setting up the first scene. In a dark alley, we have the violinist (and he's even dressed like Frau Blucher, the violin wielding hag from the movie), Dr. Carter (an American doctor with a pedigree he likes to keep to himself), and Stretch Beaulac (certainly as tall as the monster, but slightly less coordinated, as is evidenced in his failed attempt to toss flowers up to Jillian).}}
I love Young Frankenstein! Frau Blucher is my favorite character. I think Cloris Leachman delivering the line “He was my boyfriend!” is one of the best moments in modern film. I have to say, though, I thought of Laurel and Hardy when I saw this scene. Seneca and Bucky were just so clueless.
{{Hmmm.....which savage beast is the violinist attempting to soothe? Is it Seneca and his raging, unrequited love, or is it Frank and his raging, sometimes requited love? Oh well, excelsior!}}
LOL! I can just imagine Frank thinking darn, I should have brought something, but then I remember that Frank believes any woman would be lucky to have the attention of Mr. Riverside so I’m guessing he didn’t think any such thing at all.
Boy, what a choice Ms. Jill has. There’s Frank – cheater, no career hopes, huge ego, terrible kisser, and a total disconnect between what he says and how he says it. Then behind door number two we have Seneca, used to be doctor, huge ego, not afraid to commit, should be committed for stalking behavior, and drunk. She would have been better off with the mule wearing a hat and hiding behind door number three.
{{I wonder if Jillian likes to play games with the men who are head over heels in love with her. She knows that Seneca is becoming a tad obsessive in his pursuit of her. She knows that she's spent the night with him in the passion of "friendship". She knows that he practically challenged Frank to a duel for her hand at the beach house. Actually, Frank realizes a lot of this as well. Still, they laugh about the musical trio in the alley, and while Frank half-jokingly suggests dumping water on them, Jillian continues to giggle and bask in this testosterone fueled attention.}}
Jill is definitely liking this attention. And who can blame her? After all, she had to sit around for simply ages while Faith was the lucky girl who had all the crazies after her. Now it’s Jill’s turn. It’s enough to make a girl giddy.
{{I wonder if Jillian realizes that there is usually an easy way to do something and a hard way to do something. In the case of the wandering musicians ending up at her apartment door, she feels the need to hide Frank. Easy Way: Tell Frank to go into the bedroom, close the door, and keep your pals in the living room. Despite the fact that Seneca and friends are drunk, I doubt that any of them would consider barging into her bedroom. Hard Way: Rush Frank down the front stairs, have him hail a cab to his office, let him climb the stairs to his office, and have him sit at his desk until Jillian calls and meets him there later. Dumb.}}
Oh, I think I get where Jill is coming from. After all, she had to wait for three years, hiding from Dee and the Ryans, going to every family event, wedding, and business banquet alone because Frank wasn’t ready to grow a pair and confess their relationship. I don’t blame her one bit for wanting to put Frank through his paces. Let him learn what’s it like to jump through hoops and spend a little time proving his love for her. She thinks she’s earned it.
{{I wonder if Delia realizes that she is the last person in Ryanland who should be pondering whether "it pays to be a good person". She might try it -- at least once -- before giving up on the idea.}}
Dee obviously decided to rely on observation rather than experience when making this decision.
{{I wonder how Seneca and Bucky would have felt if Jill closed the door on them while the violinist was inside the apartment and they were still blabbing and stumbling in the hall. Hey, why not turn this love triangle into a perfect square?}}
Oh, the violinist would have made a perfect choice for door number three! I think she missed out on the jackpot. I mean, this guy is talented, was nice enough to help her with passed out Seneca, and was apparently a really good sport. Not a bad combination, particularly when you think about what Plank and Stretch bring to the table. I think Jill should reexamine her options.
{{I wonder why Jill said she's never been serenaded before? Do you mean to tell me that she can't hear Seneca's multiple replays of "Hello Again" -- but we have to?}}
Perhaps that music is only in Seneca’s head. It would fit his personality to have his own orchestrated soundtrack to his life in which he is the star singer.
{{I wonder why Mary supported her declaration of Jack's unwillingness to share their lives with a baby with two flawed examples of his rigidity: cutting their honeymoon short (he gave in) and sharing apartment space with her (he gave in again).}}
Never let it be said that Mary let reality or facts get in the way of a really good rant or massive whining session. She commits fully. {{I wonder what Mary meant when she told Alex that she and Jack don't usually argue in front of friends.}}
I hope she went to confession immediately after leaving Alex’ office. That was a lie of such proportions that Father McShame probably received a notice from God that Mary Ryan Fenelli was at imminent risk of going to hell for the massive whopper she was spreading in Riverside.
Come to think of it, I wonder what Mary’s and Frank’s confessions would be like? Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I didn’t take advantage of every opportunity to (a) set others on the straight and narrow by correcting their mistakes and character flaws while providing an example of such perfection that even the angels above stop to admire me, (b) bestow my intelligence on my fellow man who, as we both know, falls so far below my standard that it is an act of good works merely to acknowledge their existence, and (3) relieve suffering and bring joy to my fellow Americans by deigning to allow them to bask in the glow of my presence…… I’m sorry, Father, can you repeat my penance? Of course, I understand. You don’t feel worthy to suggest penance for me. I’ll mention your sagacity to the Holy Father next time he calls to request my guidance.
{{I guess it's technically true because they don't seem to have any friends to fight in front of.}}
This brings to mind a question. Why haven’t they invited Jumbo or the Gennaro Boys over? This show is missing out when it comes to some of the more interesting characters.
{{I wonder how Mary, whose schedule was so packed that she couldn't accompany her husband to the airport -- let alone Washington, found the time to chat about her daily domestic strife with virtual stranger, Dr. Alex (and doesn't he have patients to see?).}}
And miss the opportunity to score a few points at Jack’s expense when he was out of town? Mary plays to win. She’s practically Olympic class when it comes to new husband bashing. Practice, practice, practice. You don’t get the gold by taking a day off. {{I wonder if Dr. Alex realizes that Mary Ryan is not the first person who refused to give up on Jack. Paging Sr. Mary Joel...}}
Sister Mary Joel just doesn’t get any respect. Imagine the perfect little monster Jack would have been without her influence. Wait, never mind. Don’t imagine. It’s too scary.
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Post by raggedycheryl512 on Jun 6, 2011 15:59:12 GMT -8
Mary had a very responsible job to do today -- she covered yet another rent strike. I know I always pay rapt attention when the news does a story on rent strikes. Even Frank probably snoozed during that one. I wonder if Frank ever returns the favor that Mary gives to him? I mean, she devotes her life to worshipping him, runs his campaigns and insults his wife -- but how much attention does he pay to her petty concerns? Like the state of her marriage, her dissatisfactions with her husband, her chronic diarrhea of the mouth?
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Post by forte on Jun 6, 2011 16:18:37 GMT -8
{{Mary had a very responsible job to do today -- she covered yet another rent strike. I know I always pay rapt attention when the news does a story on rent strikes. Even Frank probably snoozed during that one. I wonder if Frank ever returns the favor that Mary gives to him? I mean, she devotes her life to worshipping him, runs his campaigns and insults his wife -- but how much attention does he pay to her petty concerns? Like the state of her marriage, her dissatisfactions with her husband, her chronic diarrhea of the mouth? }}
This is an excellent point. This symbiotic relationship is actually pretty one sided. The only thing I can remember Frank doing for Mary is "allowing" her to quit her volunteer job promoting him and get a job paying actual money. Mary has been complaining about Jack to virtually everyone in Riverside except her brother and soulmate, Frank. Rather telling, I think.
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Post by forte on Jun 7, 2011 14:17:49 GMT -8
I wonder if anyone else had a laugh when Maeve was talking to Mary about the state of her marriage with Jack and said marriage is like a baby. All I could think of was that Jack said no to babies now and forever. Did Maeve forget this? It seems an odd thing to say under that circumstance.
I wonder what the camera man was drinking during lunch. The camera work was all out of whack during a very pivotal scene with Pat, Dee, and Johnny. Like he was shooting from behind a post or something. Perhaps Johnny brought down the life size plaster cast of Frank they like to keep around so they never have to go Frankless too long. Anyway, it was very distracting, particularly in such an emotional scene. The lighting was off today, too. Pat almost disappeared for a while in one scene. It almost became a mystery; The Case of the Disappearing Ryan.
I wonder if Jill thinks Frank has lost his mind. His phone is tapped? His office is bugged? Let's not forget, Jill and Frank are the masterminds of subtlety who repeatedly canoodled in Frank's hospital room when anyone could and would drop in unexpectedly. A year has passed and they did not spend the time developing discretion. Frank spends time in her apartment (hey, maybe they bugged Jill's place! Sure would be a lot more interesting to listen in on what goes on there) and they play snuggle bunny in his neighborhood office. And their big hidden love nest? The Coleridge Family Beach House, where the only people with keys are Jil.......and Faith.......and Roger........and probably Seneca, although I don't think he'd admit it. Who in Riverside doesn't know that Frank and Jill have rekindled their affair? Little John, but that's only because no one will talk with him.
I wonder if there is anything that Frank and Johhny can't blame Delia for. The collapse of the stock market? Dee's fault. Potholes in the street? Dee must have done it. Otherwise well-behaved women wearing white shoes after Labor Day? It can only be Dee! I've actually made a game out of it. I always struggle to eat breakfast in the morning; I just don't have much of an apetite until midmorning. However, the doctor has strongly suggested that I eat breakfast on a regular basis. This morning, I made a rule that I had to take a bite every time someone blamed Dee for something. Breakfast was gone before the show was over.
I wonder if Frank could possibly become more heavy handed and insensitive. "She has good reason to hate you" was probably not the best choice of words when speaking with the woman you've sworn is the love of your life. I don't care how many my darlings and dearests you add, it was a crappy thing to say to her.
I wonder why Johnny was wearing his pajamas, robe, and his watch in the middle of the night. Did he have an appointment he didn't want to be late for? Is he timing something? Was it a gift from Frank and therefore could never be removed from his arm?
I wonder if they finally washed that green blanket in Dee's room. It looked so bright and clean! Thank goodness. It was looking pretty dingy there for a while. The Ryan Household doesn't need any more bacteria camping out. There's already a huge colony making the kitchen their kingdom.
Have I mentioned before how much I love the nonverbal communication used in this show? When Maeve was talking with Mary about her attempts to change Jack, Mary licked her lips like she couldn't wait to get back to it. Absolutely perfect.
I wonder why HG was not awarded an Emmy for her serious reading of the dialogue referring to Johnny's "present state of perfection." Now that was impressive. She didn't even have to swallow the lines or cough or anything. Amazing. You go girl.
Of course, a little later in the same scene she said to Mary that she couldn't expect others to know what you're thinking. She said this to Mary??? I haven't observed Mary having any tendency to hold back anything she was thinking OR showing any discretion as to whom she was speaking to about her mind's contents. I wonder if Maeve forgot which child she was engaging in conversation at the time. Must have been the pain killers.
I wonder if Faith took cooking classes as rehab while in the psych unit after her interaction with Kenneth.Those grilled cheese and bacon sandwiches sounded so good I made them for dinner tonight. (I have no issues with my apetite in the evening, unless you count having a large apetite as a problem.) Much better than those tuna crepes or whatever that mess was that she served Pat back in the face scrunching days. Good to know that Faith took advantage of her time in the hospital to better herself and develop new skills. Hey, if she doesn't like pediatrics, she can always ask for a job as cook at Ryan's Bar.
I wonder how Johnny's heart couldn't break when he heard Pat saying that he had avoided opposing Frank all his life. What a telling statement. I'm feeling more and more sorry for Pat. He obviously knew that in opposing Frank he would be seen as the traitor. How sad that someone would know as a child that their acceptance in the family was based on accepting their secondary status to the preferred child. At least, that's how I interpreted that statement.
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Post by faithcoleridge on Jun 7, 2011 22:03:46 GMT -8
Hi Forte,
Great observations! I did like the conversation with Maeve and Mary. I also understood the analogy Maeve used about marriage being like having a child. She was saying the marriage is only 3 months old, so it's unrealistic of Mary to expect Jack will change dramatically in that short period of time.
Mary does need to learn not to blab every single detail about every single fight she has with Jack.
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Post by destclev on Jun 8, 2011 5:40:11 GMT -8
Hi Forte,
Great observations! I did like the conversation with Maeve and Mary. I also understood the analogy Maeve used about marriage being like having a child. She was saying the marriage is only 3 months old, so it's unrealistic of Mary to expect Jack will change dramatically in that short period of time.
Mary does need to learn not to blab every single detail about every single fight she has with Jack. But Jack HAS changed, very materially. Getting Martha's story killed wasn't changing? Ho ho ho. Jack was right when he said he's been the one who's made changes, not Mary.
In what ways has Mary changed to accommodate Jack? I'll give it some thought today and see if I can come up with anything, but I'll be honest, nothing is leaping to mind.
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Post by PucaShell on Jun 8, 2011 9:03:09 GMT -8
Fortes wrote; Oh, the violinist would have made a perfect choice for door number three! I think she missed out on the jackpot. I mean, this guy is talented, was nice enough to help her with passed out Seneca, and was apparently a really good sport. Not a bad combination, particularly when you think about what Plank and Stretch bring to the table. I think Jill should reexamine her options. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fortes!! A match made in heaven, as this would bring out the Gypsy in Jillian!!!
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